tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24170237.post6650145783534463185..comments2024-03-24T01:15:08.693+10:00Comments on The Old Foodie: Artichokes in England.The Old Foodiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00766403052971301718noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24170237.post-37759021948312942172009-07-01T21:16:33.215+10:002009-07-01T21:16:33.215+10:00Anne, I guess the sense of the recipe - the genera...Anne, I guess the sense of the recipe - the general method of preparation and "assumed knowledge" told the reader what was intended. Cookbooks back then worked on much assumed knowledge.<br />Interesting though - I dont know much about Jerusalem artichokes - fodder for another post, I guess!The Old Foodiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00766403052971301718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24170237.post-14371729193002897402009-07-01T15:39:11.761+10:002009-07-01T15:39:11.761+10:00How did cooks in old English times distinguish whe...How did cooks in old English times distinguish whether a recipe was calling for Globe Artichoke (Cynara cardunculus) or Jerusalem artichoke(Helianthus tuberosus)? Jerusalem artichokes are mentioned in Gerard's Herbal of 1621, albeit in a very derogatory way. And then there is the Chinese artichoke (Stachys affinis). None of these belong to the same family but they share the same common name, which must make it very confusing to interpret exactly what vegetable is being called for.Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01342115557216005890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24170237.post-34374476547396373082009-07-01T09:50:35.919+10:002009-07-01T09:50:35.919+10:00This sounds marvelous! I've lately fallen in ...This sounds marvelous! I've lately fallen in love with cardoons, of which the stalks are eaten and taste like artichoke hearts only better. They would excel in this dish so I'll be sure to try it once they are in season, later this summer! Thank you....<br /><br />KTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24170237.post-65113105038593436952009-06-30T13:01:53.209+10:002009-06-30T13:01:53.209+10:00Also I forgot to say - there is a copy of May at G...Also I forgot to say - there is a copy of May at Gutenberg, so you can access it from anywhere with a computer.The Old Foodiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00766403052971301718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24170237.post-46152817995430031642009-06-30T13:00:25.851+10:002009-06-30T13:00:25.851+10:00Hi Ken, I am pretty sure artichokes were grown in ...Hi Ken, I am pretty sure artichokes were grown in England towards the end of the sixteenth century (in the Channel Islands in particular??) - but I dont know how well. Yet another thing to research (we will never run out, will we?)<br />I must say, I loved the artichoke stalks the way my friend cooked them - do you cook the stalks too?The Old Foodiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00766403052971301718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24170237.post-8013905837046840332009-06-29T23:41:06.276+10:002009-06-29T23:41:06.276+10:00Janet, I made eight artichokes last night. Synchro...Janet, I made eight artichokes last night. Synchronicity. I came inches from making a pie, I think from Robert May, though my copy is at work. I think it included cockscombs, marrow, barberries or such. But now I may just have to get some more chockes and do it tonight. <br /><br />The question of why they go out of fashion is very interesting. You're right though, by 18th or 19th c. no longer a novelty. Maybe that's why. I'd love to think changing climate and growing patterns had something to do with it. Did they ever grow well in England?Ken Albalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16379852662105383295noreply@blogger.com